Additional terms for Australia only: Any publication into Australia of this document is pursuant to the Australian Financial Services License of MOODY'S affiliate, Moody's Investors Service Pty Limited ABN 61 003 399 657AFSL 336969 and/or Moody's Analytics Australia Pty Ltd ABN 94 105 136 972 AFSL 383569 (as applicable). It is possible that you may need to edit the .htaccess file at some point, for various reasons.This section covers how to edit the file in cPanel, but not what may need to be changed. In the short run, Viking's credit profile will be dominated by the length of time that cruise operations continue to be highly disrupted and the resulting impacts on the company's cash consumption and its liquidity profile. But all the companies have raised huge sums of money in the financial markets in recent months through stock and bond sales, and loans. Hes sailed on more than 150 ships. While some cruise liners suggest that Per Capital One, I can file a dispute within 120 days from when the service (in this case the cruise) was scheduled to be. Their financial positions are thus shielded from view. Cruisetour itineraries range from 7 to 23 days and include as regions the European rivers Rhine, Main, Danube, Saone, Rhone, Seine, Elbe and Douro, also Ukraine's Dnieper, Russia's Volga, China's Yangtze, Burma's decided to stop their river boat operations. Really. In general, cruises Among the lines that have begun tiptoeing back into operation with a few sailings is Germany's Tui Cruises, which Royal Caribbean partly owns through a joint venture. I'm hoping that's not the case," she said. Viking will send you a number of notifications via email as your departure date nears, including your booking confirmation, payment receipts and, if you purchased your air travel from Viking, logistical information about your air travel and transfers. Genting Hong Kong is the parent company of three cruise lines, the luxury line Crystal Cruises, the Asian cruise line Star Cruises and the cruise line Dream Cruises, which is a Asia-focused mashup of Norwegian and Royal Caribbean. More specifically, Viking's credit profile, which includes its exposure to increased travel restrictions for US citizens which represents a majority of the company's revenue and earnings have left it vulnerable to shifts in market sentiment in these unprecedented operating conditions and the company remains vulnerable to the outbreak continuing to spread. RewriteEngine On Viking's liquidity is good with our estimate of cash balances of about $1 billion, providing it sufficient runway to get through this period of unprecedented earnings For provisional ratings, this announcement provides certain regulatory disclosures in relation to the provisional rating assigned, and in relation to a definitive rating that may be assigned subsequent to the final issuance of the debt, in each case where the transaction structure and terms have not changed prior to the assignment of the definitive rating in a manner that would have affected the rating. We're going with Viking in October, and I have heard nothing concerning financial difficulties. Also with Viking be sure you compare prices with their 2 for 1 deals. Just click. Anyway there are no rumors that Viking is in any kind of financial troubles. Of course, if the cruising shutdown continues into late next year or beyond, all bets are off. In all, Genting Hong Kong operates a fleet of 15 cruise ships, in addition to a hotel brand and a shipyard. 2023 CNBC LLC. My comment here would relate to the "Internet phenomenon," which on some forums I've visited (check a Disney forum, for example) approaches the level of an epidemic disease. I agree the 2-for-1 offer may not be all that it seems, but they do provide nice pricing on the air fare and the free wine with dinner does have some value. Most tour organizations have had a decline in travel and some are no longer with us. I'd recommend you "pretend" you're going to buy trip insurance and see which companies come up listed as not covered. 12. Per Capital One, I can file a dispute within 120 days from when the service (in this case the cruise) was scheduled to be. SEE MOODY'S RATING SYMBOLS AND DEFINITIONS PUBLICATION FOR INFORMATION ON THE TYPES OF CONTRACTUAL FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS ADDRESSED BY MOODY'S INVESTORS SERVICE CREDIT RATINGS. Sign up for free newsletters and get more CNBC delivered to your inbox. The biggest of the lines to shut down was Cruise & Maritime Voyages, a six-ship company that was the second-largest cruise brand in the U.K. One big cruise line, MSC Cruises, also is privately owned, as is Viking. Check with your credit card company. Genting Hong Kong this week sold its discotheque division, Zouk Group, for about $10 million as it sheds non-core assets in a bid to maintain liquidity. "We had a lot of good experiences. It's all about the financial trouble NCLH is in . Many of the cruise line policies only offer a future cruise credit on their line, with blackout dates, should you cancel. I have been watching & reading to see if I could find any current info to their financial status. 6. The negative outlook reflects Viking's high leverage and the uncertainty around the pace and level of recovery in demand that will enable the company to de-lever to around 6.5x. However, if negotiations with creditors do not produce results amicable to all parties, bankruptcy may be the only option left to the company. But the lines have been canceling voyages in waves, about a month at a time. RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f Additional terms for Japan only: Moody's Japan K.K. Someone with a burr under their saddle with a cruise, perhaps some complaint that was not resolved, takes on a few too many cocktails and starts telling people the cruise line is in trouble. With a cruise, since the "delivery date" (the cruise sailing date) is not scheduled until Sept. 2010 you can't be expected to file a dispute within 120 days of making the payment. I vividly remember when Renaissance Cruise Lines folded in 2001. I have been considering taking a christmas markets cruise this winter. I don't think callling the cruise line and asking would help because I am sure they have told their agents what to say and I'm sure the answner would be "polished" if you know what I mean. Cruise lines have clashed with the CDC several times since the pandemic began due to the various virus mitigation efforts that the agency has enforced. WebAre Viking cruises in financial trouble? One or two of those go on an Internet forum and start posting. Copyright 19952023 The Independent Traveler, Inc. Its existing unsecured notes due 2025 traded last week at 68.5 cents on the dollar for a yield Viking Ocean Cruises announced it is taking US$1.5 billion in financing on 4 ships. Some advice. Pullmantur, part owned by Royal Caribbean, and Cruise & Maritime Voyages. When necessary, guests and their travel advisors will be notified directly and this page will be updated. Those who had purchased Renaissance's policy were out of luck - bankruptcy is bankruptcy! Because of the possibility of human or mechanical error as well as other factors, however, all information contained herein is provided "AS IS" without warranty of any kind. I use "insure my trip",which is usually much cheaper too. 2) We bought the full-coverage trip insurance policy. 479 people were evacuated off the vessel before it reached port, and have already started flying home through arrangements by the cruise line. While on the cruise a number of passengers ( many who had cruised on Viking before & were very happy with them) were talking about Viking Cruise line and the fact they they were in some financial difficulties. Heck - I think many of us were surprised when Peter Desilmann (sp?) Simply, there is no ability to question or cross examine hearsay evidence. RewriteBase / It sounds impossible. Many people took their vouchers for 2020 cruises, and applied them to 2021 and 2022 cruises. Also, make sure that the insurance you are going with covers your cruise company. I have no clue if the rumors are true or not but one way to often tell is if 3rd party insurance companies will cover them for financial default. Our first Viking Cruise is March 1 (northern lights) and we used credit from a canceled trip in March 2020 to book our flight to London (before the credit expired). But does it have to? I've been looking at the various travel insurance policies and find that most exclude financial default of a travel supplier. Highlights, big interviews, and more from the Milken Institute Global Conference, UPDATE 1-US to end COVID vaccination requirements on May 11 for foreign travelers, federal workers, Barbie movie is 'a showcase for the quality of the movies we're looking to make,' Mattel CEO says, JPMorgan acquires First Republic, DeSantis-Disney feud escalates, Lordstown Motors' warning, We are probably heading for recession: Citi CEO. Improve earnings, maximize rewards and track progress toward dream trips. You can contact me at shaun(at)cruisearabiaonline.com. Only use the major cruise line offered insurance if they use an independent insurance provider, i.e. # End WordPress. Still, without a peek at the books of such companies, it's impossible for The Points Guy or any other outside entity to offer enlightened commentary on their financial viability. New York, August 24, 2020 -- Moody's Investors Service, ("Moody's") downgraded the ratings of Viking Cruises Ltd (together with Viking Ocean Cruises Ltd., "Viking") including its Corporate Family Rating to B3 from B2, Probability of Default Rating to B3-PD from B2-PD, senior secured rating to B2 from B1 and senior unsecured rating to Caa2 from Caa1. As they are not self insured as Viking may be. It is classified as operating in the Travel For addon domains, the file must be in public_html/addondomain.com/example/Example/ and the names are case-sensitive. The text appears: onwards But it's true. Opinions expressed here are the authors alone, not those of any bank, credit card issuer, airline or hotel chain, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. The date of your final payment is dependent on your itinerary and will be noted on your invoice. Three ships operated by Viking Cruises, the company that headed the Donahues cruise, are restricted and remain under investigation for COVID-19 outbreaks, according to the CDC. Viking has just over $3.3 billion in total debt. Add in Carnival Corporation's nine brands, and that makes for 16 of the world's biggest cruise lines that are in a reasonably solid financial position for now. A Viking Ocean ship sails in Croatia. A federal judge ruled that Norwegian Cruise Line can ask passengers for proof of vaccination before sailing, putting a hold on Florida's vaccine passport ban. MJKK and MSFJ also maintain policies and procedures to address Japanese regulatory requirements. This will reset the permalinks and fix the issue in many cases. CREDIT RATINGS ISSUED BY MOODY'S INVESTORS SERVICE, INC. I have been using them for years. MOODY'S INVESTORS SERVICE DEFINES CREDIT RISK AS THE RISK THAT AN ENTITY MAY NOT MEET ITS CONTRACTUAL FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS AS THEY COME DUE AND ANY ESTIMATED FINANCIAL LOSS IN THE EVENT OF DEFAULT OR IMPAIRMENT. Alternatively, please see the Rating Methodologies page on www.moodys.com for a copy of this methodology. I frequently use "insure my trip" and they always have competitive pricing. 19952023, The Independent Traveler, Inc. Viking Cruise line--possible financial problems?? WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for P & O Ferries Viking Voyager Commerative 25 Anniversary Cruise May 1989 Signed at the best online prices at eBay! Edit the file on your computer and upload it to the server via FTP. How would you know they were talking absolute fact? missbsmom, August 7, 2009 in River Cruising. I would strongly advise that you purchase a 3rd party insurance policy that covers financial default AND reimburses you the cost of the cruise should you have to cancel for a covered reason. Right click on the X and choose Properties. I do not believe Cruise Critic permits posting the Web site name on any threads. Does Viking still go to Russia? I was not happy with that, Street explained. A few years ago when I went on Amadeus, I only found 1 company that would cover them for financial default so I went with them. MOODY'S CREDIT RATINGS, ASSESSMENTS, OTHER OPINIONS AND PUBLICATIONS DO NOT CONSTITUTE OR PROVIDE INVESTMENT OR FINANCIAL ADVICE, AND MOODY'S CREDIT RATINGS, ASSESSMENTS, OTHER OPINIONS AND PUBLICATIONS ARE NOT AND DO NOT PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO PURCHASE, SELL, OR HOLD PARTICULAR SECURITIES. I frequently use "insure my trip" and they always have competitive pricing. TPG Capital and Canada Pension Plan Investment Board own a minority interest (about 23% on a combined basis) in Viking Holdings Ltd, parent company of Viking Cruises. During a conference call with Wall Street analysts in August, Royal Caribbean CFO Jason Liberty said the company was burning through about $250 to $290 million a month during the cruising shutdown but had liquidity of more than $4 billion. Viking has undoubtedly sold some cabins to new purchasers for these 2021 cruises, too. "We are a private, closely held company, which means we do not have to rush the decision to return to service," Viking chairman Torstein Hagen said in August in a letter to customers. Not sure if it was because the company was new or having problems but these insurance companies stay up on these issues. Quite a few of the smaller cruise lines marketing to North Americans, including most river lines aimed at North Americans, are privately owned. Just returned last month from a River Cruise on another company (not Viking), had a wonderful time. At least with the early booking you can get a better selection of cabins, especially the lower priced categories. They don't publish their quarterly results. Even though it is a privately held company - information still leaks out. Send me an email (click on the ".." on my signature) and I'll send you the name of a Web based service that provides quotes from several insurance companies. CREDIT RATINGS, NON-CREDIT ASSESSMENTS ("ASSESSMENTS"), AND OTHER OPINIONS INCLUDED IN MOODY'S PUBLICATIONS ARE NOT STATEMENTS OF CURRENT OR HISTORICAL FACT. This varies by browser, if you do not see a box on your page with a red X try right clicking on the page, then select View Page Info, and goto the Media Tab. 4. A Viking Expedition ship sails in Antarctica. How much is the owner of Viking Cruises worth? When working with WordPress, 404 Page Not Found errors can often occur when a new theme has been activated or when the rewrite rules in the .htaccess file have been altered. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Carnival Corporation's Costa Cruises is scheduled to resume limited operations in just a few days. All rights reserved. Viking's credit profile is supported by its well-recognized brand name in both the premium segment of the river cruising and ocean cruising markets. I don't consider fellow passengers or a cruise director on a competitor's boat as authorities on the financial well being of a cruise line. The company says it has undertaken a number of cost reduction and cash conservation measures to mitigate the effect of the loss of revenues from its operations, but that its financial position has continued to deteriorate. This would hold true for example if you ordered furniture and were given an expected delivery date of 5 months from the date of purchase. Its river cruises operate in over 30 countries largely in Continental Europe. If the store fails to deliver or defaults, you can dispute it even though it is more than 120 days from date of purchase. A few need to be bought within a certain time frame of your initial deposit. Recent updates have been made to cancellation schedules and refund guidelines for various cruise lines. I can only make a claim if Viking fails to deliver, not if I decide not to go on it. The properties will tell you the path and file name that cannot be found. Carnival Corporation is the parent company of four North American cruise brands that cruising fans know well: Carnival, Princess, Holland America and Seabourn. See what a point or mile is worth with our appraisals of a loyalty programs currency, based on redemption values. 9. Who is the CEO of Viking? 2) We bought the full-coverage trip insurance policy. I have no clue if the rumors are true or not but one way to often tell is if 3rd party insurance companies will cover them for financial default. Genting owns Dream Cruises, which is building the 208,000-gross ton Global Dream cruise ship, RELATED:Carnival reveals video of Mardi Gras rollercoaster in action, RELATED:MSC put Royal Caribbean on notice with World Class ships. If you see Viking there, then that's a red flag! Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings in August said it was burning through about $160 million a month but had liquidity of $2.8 billion. Additional resources for cruisers during the coronavirus outbreak: The credit card offers that appear on the website are from credit card companies from which ThePointsGuy.com receives compensation. Our group of 12 friends went on Uniworld's River Beatrice from Passau to Budapest (with a 3-day Prague pre-cruise stay), and I could not find fault. This makes sense since in a merchandise purchase, after you pay for something and then the merchant fails to make delivery, you can then submit a dispute to your credit card bank. We read all those emails you send us. I called my credit card company (Capital One) to clarify what is my liability if there is a default by Viking. In this example the image file must be in public_html/cgi-sys/images/. I can only make a claim if Viking fails to deliver, not if I decide not to go on it. Moody's SF Japan K.K. Rating Action: Moody's downgrades Viking's CFR to B3; outlook negative. Related: How to book a cruise with points and miles. I have a 90 year old mother, and while her health is generally good, at that age anything can happen, and we would then be in a position to have to cancel our trip. Anyway there are no rumors that Viking is in any kind of financial troubles. WebIn a subsequent financial disclosure, the company said it had $397.5 million in cash and cash equivalents as of June 30 and had net operating cash outflows of $252.4 during the This requirement applies to cruise lines that embark from a U.S. port and have at least 50 berth accommodations. When you get a 404 error be sure to check the URL that you are attempting to use in your browser.This tells the server what resource it should attempt to request. WebTravel + Leisure: The Newest Viking Ship Was Named by an Aquanaut and Just Set Sail on a 138-day World Cruise January 10, 2023 In a naming ceremony over the weekend, Viking officially welcomed its newest ship, Viking Neptune, into its ever-growing fleet.The 930-passenger vessel, a sibling to seven other ocean ships soon to be eight, with the A planned funding deal this past spring to cover Then, at the prompt, dial 866-330-MDYS (866-330-6397). 1) We booked our cruise using a credit card. Is It Better To Lease Or Buy A Car In Summer 2022? Even cruise executives are surprised by how many people are booking cruises, How to book a cruise with points and miles. Factors that could lead to a downgrade include deterioration in the company's liquidity profile, updated expectations for a weaker recovery in 2021 or if there are indications that the company is not on a path to restoring leverage to a sustainable level. Let's construct an example. Following the "-if there's smoke-" principle, people who were completely unconcerned before suddenly start thinking that if there are that many people asking questions, there has GOT to be something to it, so they join the Greek Chorus. Viking is a cruise line providing river, ocean, and expedition cruises. They are well known for hiking up the prices of their cruises and than offering 2 for 1 deals.Usually with the 2 for 1 deal the price comes out to be the same as the regular price of other companies. Sometimes entire itineraries are having to be reworked on short notice due to unexpected changes to countrywide travel restrictions. I vividly remember when Renaissance Cruise Lines folded in 2001. Sign up to receive updates from In a statement, Viking Cruises said that 20 people suffered injuries onboard, We'll run a soft credit check to find special offers, but it wont affect your credit score. WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for P & O Ferries Viking Voyager Commerative 25 Anniversary Cruise May 1989 Signed at the best online prices at eBay! The price action is already alarming to the downside, and Carnival especially is acting like it wants to test and breach its 2020 lows. Send me an email (click on the ".." on my signature) and I'll send you the name of a Web based service that provides quotes from several insurance companies. We regard the coronavirus outbreak as a social risk under our ESG framework, given the substantial implications for public health and safety. We are all individually responsible for thinking these things through and being provident; no one's going to do it for us. There is no defense against the "Internet disease," the only defense is- insurance, as has been mentioned. Viking Cruises Ltd. on Monday launched a bid to raise money to help it sustain its business through the coronavirus pandemic.
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